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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-18-2008, 11:20 PM Thread Starter
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positive neutral finder in 700?

I'm just about to buy a 1985 Vulcan 700 which doesn't have the positive neutral finder. I know it is in the 1986 750, can anyone tell me if it was also in the 1985 700 or not introduced until the 1986 750?

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-19-2008, 12:39 AM
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The 700 has the neutral finder. If the one you're about to buy doesn't have it - it's malfunctioning. (Mine's a 700 and the neutral finder works just fine...)

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I wonder if that is a minor thing or a sign of some major transmission problems developing. I've already made the offer and given a deposit to buy it so I hope it isn't a sign of something major.

Thanks for letting me know.

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Dumb question. How is the neutral finder supposed to work. I frequently overshoot when moving to neutral just like other bikes I've had. I didn't even know we had a neutral finder. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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As I understand it, the positive neutral finder is a contraption that uses ball bearings to sense whether you are moving or not. When you are moving it more or less "locks out" neutral (you can still get there - it's just harder), when you aren't it makes the first to neutral or second to neutral possible with a full rather than 1/2 kick of the shift lever.

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With the bike in 1st gear, running and not moving, shift to 2nd. If it doesnt go into 2nd gear, the neutral finder is working just fine.

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The neutral finder is indeed three very small ball bearings that ride in one of the gear shafts in the transmission. They rely on centrifugal force to keep them to the outside of the shaft when it is turning. Once stopped, they can retract and allow you to get to neutral easier. At least, that's the theory.
As far as it not working, about the only things that will cause that is if the bike has sat for a very long time and the old oil has gunked up the balls. This will stop them from retracting once the bike is stopped. Fresh oil and time should cure this. About the only other thing is if one or more of the balls falls out of the shaft. In that case, you would hear a rattling sound when the bike is running. They are small enough that the screen would probably capture them before they did any real damage but it is also a sign of a worn transmission. You didn't state how many miles are on the bike but the tranny is quite robust and it would take alot of abuse like running alot on worn out oil to cause this. If this is the case, other problems related to poor lubrication will be manifest as well.

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I have The 1985 vn700 and it has a green light on the dash for neutral if thats what you mean.
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Mines an 85 and it does go into nuetral easier when stopped but still can't go a full click or it will go inti second gear. I have to use a half switch myself.

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The green light is only to tell you it's in neutral not the "neutral finder". All the neutral finder is is a slight stop or hesitation of the gear shift when shifting from 1rst to 2nd while the bike is stopped.

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