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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 04-23-2014, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
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Maybe I'm just spoiled

So my dad is looking for a motorcycle. I haven't convinced him to get a vulcan (yet) and what he is really fond of is the S50 or the older intruder 800 from suzuki.

He hasn't ridden in 20 odd years so I've been test driving the bikes ( he also doesn't have a license yet, so I've gotta ride the dealer bikes).

Anyway, it seems that all the bikes I've ride so far have very touchy shifting, including heavy feed back with a buzz and a bounce when trying to down shift from 3 through to 1. On the vulcan it's always been smooth and heavy, never had to worry about going light on the lever. I have to just tip the lever until the gear shifts then have to let it go back otherwise the feed back real nasty.

Is it something up with the bikes or are vulcan a just smoother shifters?

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Vulcans were much better built...they had experience from their winning KZ series....wheras Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki had what ?...305 Dream, etc, lol....

The Vulcans were also designed after the Harley Sportsters, which were proven to be tanks...
Dont quote me, but I believe Kawi was the first Japper to make a V-Twin....

The more modern ones of all brands are all comparable....



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Dont quote me, but I believe Kawi was the first Japper to make a V-Twin....
Honda, 1983 Shadow 750. I bought one new. It was a 'wave tuned' V twin, with intake plenum and 'goat'. SOHC, 3 valve, made 67-68 hp @ 460#. High 12's, low 13's.
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Honda, 1983 Shadow 750. I bought one new. It was a 'wave tuned' V twin, with intake plenum and 'goat'. SOHC, 3 valve, made 67-68 hp @ 460#. High 12's, low 13's.
That's quicker than a newer one.

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So I can expect most other metric bikes to feel like the intruder? my 2004 Vulcan has 25k miles on it, but these 2003-2004 bikes with 4k-6k miles on them(the three I've tried) are all temperamental, but only when shifting gears.

Whats up with that? I talked to a mech and I understand how the Dog bones work, and how Kawi has that positive find feature, but all three models of bike i've ridden (s50, intruder,vn750) have a direct path to the splines, no linkages so why don't they shift similarly?

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Vulcans were much better built...they had experience from their winning KZ series....wheras Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki had what ?...305 Dream, etc, lol....

The Vulcans were also designed after the Harley Sportsters, which were proven to be tanks...
Dont quote me, but I believe Kawi was the first Japper to make a V-Twin....

The more modern ones of all brands are all comparable....
I thought it was the 1981 Yamaha Virago 750?

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actualy the vulcan has an internal shift linkage inside the crank case might be some of the difference u are talking about

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Some bikes just shift differently. If you're used to shifting on your Vulcan you might just be trying to shift the other bikes the same way.

Case in point...when I switched from the Vulcan to the FJR I asked why it felt clunky and sometimes missed shifts. I learned that you had to "preload" the shift lever a tiny bit before a shift..subtley changing the the timing of clutch lever/throttle/shift lever. After a few days I retrained myself and the bike shifted flawlessly.

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