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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-24-2007, 11:26 PM Thread Starter
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MSF experienced rider course

Has anyone here recently taken the MSF experienced rider course--or the
newer, MSF experienced rider course "suite"?

If so, I'd be interested in your comments on this class--good, or bad--
as I'm considering it for later this year.

Also, if you have any suggestions on what might be good ideas for class
preparation (e.g., recommended reading), I'm all ears.


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I tool the Basic corce last year, Was just a refresher course for me. I do agree that people should take it. I am going to take the Experienced cource this year. That wil be my first time for that.
In Illinois the course is free, you need to give a $20 deposit to hold your spot but you can get that back after or donate it to the course.
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I took the MSF experienced rider course last year. I would rate it as “good”. As far as prep goes, give your bike a good going over and check your tire pressure just before the class.

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I don't know about other states, but in Texas, you have to have taken the basic course before you can any of the advanced courses. Which, I would highly recommend everybody take at least the basic, I took after being a rider for 15 years, and still learned new useful things.

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I don't know about other states, but in Texas, you have to have taken the basic course before you can any of the advanced courses. Which, I would highly recommend everybody take at least the basic, I took after being a rider for 15 years, and still learned new useful things.
Can you give us the Reader's Digest version of the "useful things" for those of us riding a really long time and much too lazy to take the course?

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Ok, for the Readers Digest version...lol. The course I took was expensive, $190 for 2 full days, but they supplied the bikes. I think this is the part I found most useful, using someone else's bike to practice things like panic stops and swerving around obstacles. The swerving, I wouldn't hesitate to try on my bike, but practicing panic stops and getting stopped in under 12 feet from about 15-18 mph isn't something I'd want to do on my bike. This course really concentrated on things to think about to be safe when in traffic (lane positioning, etc.), much more so than what the department of public safety motorcycle manual does. I enjoyed doing the precision riding where you had to do figure 8's staying inside a small rectangular painted box without stopping or putting your feet down, which made you learn to use a combination of braking and slipping the clutch (falling over was a failure)...

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I enjoyed doing the precision riding where you had to do figure 8's staying inside a small rectangular painted box without stopping or putting your feet down, which made you learn to use a combination of braking and slipping the clutch (falling over was a failure)...

i had to do it on a yamaha dual sport, the bigger one.... cant remember what it was, 250 xyz or something..... that was a major pain for me.... the bike was, well wheelie prone:P

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Going that slow, it's hard to trust the bike and keep your head turned in the direction of the turns on that figure 8. But if you look at the ground, that's where your balance will go. I sucked badly on the 8 on day two, but in practice on the testing day I owned it. Then I went over one of the lines a bit on the test, but I think I got away with it cause the instructor was so impressed with my progress from the day before.
I had to do an emergency stop when I got the bike inspected, and it was no big deal. Of course, I went from a KZ1000 police bike fully dressed to the 750 so it still seems small to me, although not nearly as small as the practice bikes they had on the course.
Thinking or looking ahead and lane positioning are two of the most important things I think I learned. For instance, coming to an intersection on a four lane road where one or more vehicles in front of you are turning right, and one or more cars on that road waiting to turn left onto my road, my choice is to stay in the right lane and just slow down with them and let them turn in front of me, as apposed to passing them in the left lane. I've seen too many small cars get T-boned where someone turning on to the street going the other way didn't see anything beyond the cars that were turning right and pulled out and smacked someone, or got broadsided themself. It's also made me much more concious about bikers if I'm the guy on the side road turning left. I'll wait til there's no cars left turning right onto my road before I go, just in case. I think riding a bike has made me a much better car driver.

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i had to do it on a yamaha dual sport, the bigger one.... cant remember what it was, 250 xyz or something..... that was a major pain for me.... the bike was, well wheelie prone:P
This is the one I took mine on, Fun bike
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...10/0/home.aspx

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This is the one I took mine on, Fun bike
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...10/0/home.aspx
I wanted to get one of those shortly after I was just starting to drive. Mostly because the TW are also my initials.


IMO, riding a dirtbike off road before getting a streetbike is a big help in the precision riding and figure 8's. Although the ride itself is quite different, you get the feeling of how a bike in general will react to sudden changes in speed and/or direction and slipping the clutch, as well as getting comfortable with leaning.

Maybe someday I'll give the experienced rider course a try.


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