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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 09-13-2011, 05:19 PM Thread Starter
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Kickstand safety switch - yes or no...?

I'm curious....

I noticed last night that my kickstand safety switch was hosed. Not quite sure how it happened, but it looks like the plunger on the switch has somehow been bent upwards and no longer contacts the spot on the stand that is supposed to depress it when the stand is down.

I am planning on fixing it, but then I started wondering - does anyone ever just remove theirs? I will probably fix mine either way. But seems to me that it's not really that big of a deal one way or the other.

So has anyone removed theirs? If so, why? Do you like it better?

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I think they are stupid useless things...but Olddog would likely say otherwise.

Your best move would be to fix it/replace it so it works as intended.


The one on my FJR will kill the bike even if the clutch is pulled in. In some cases its kinda nice when parking on a hill...

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Thanks KM. I will probably do just that. I try to keep most things stock, esp. safety stuff, both for safety/inspection reasons, as well as resale value (the thing's over 20 years old - probably can't hurt it that much eh? Lol)

I never thought about the parking on a hill that, but that makes total sense. I could see where that would be helpful. However if I remember correctly, on the VN, it only kills it after the clutch is let out - I think.

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Mine was same...

Mine was the same way when I got it...I guess was a popular way of bypassing it if needed. I personally dont mind it being disabled, because none of my bikes ever had one...the more "safety" stuff there is, the more there is to go wrong IMO...thinking about yanking mine completely actually...its just "there" and dosnt do anything.
I personally like my bikes stripped of any "unnecessaries"...they clog up the appearance of a bike, and as stated, one more item to go bad. But Im "old school"...I like my bikes clean (from junk)...
...*shrug*...



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I forgot about that switch... until last week when I had a chatty Kathy yappin' at me while I was preparing to take off. Then I couldn't understand why it was stalling when I started to move, ha ha. Musta done it 3 times before genius me figured out the kstand was still down . Then I had to lay some rubber... you know, to save face ;-) . Just kidding. Was a little annoyed though.

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I used to not care for safety switches. I never had them on the old bikes that I used to have. And I did from time to time ride off with the stand down. I never got thron like Old Dog but it would give me a jolt. And I have been known to try and start the bike in gear. So yes I like the safety that this switches provide. Especially for those days that I may be a little out of it.

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Very interesting thread. My '91, purchased last year, can be started with stand up or down. There is a switch near it, but it no longer touches the stand. I've often wondered about it, but never researched it further.
So it's purpose it to not allow the bike to run with the stand down?
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Very interesting thread. My '91, purchased last year, can be started with stand up or down. There is a switch near it, but it no longer touches the stand. I've often wondered about it, but never researched it further.
So it's purpose it to not allow the bike to run with the stand down?
I believe you can start the vn750 with the side stand down and the tranny in gear IF THE CLUTCH LEVER IS PULLED IN.
As soon as you release the clutch though, with the stand down, the engine will die.

(It has been over 3 years since I have been able to ride mine, so I am going by memory and what I have read here on the specifics of how it works. If I have mis-spoke myself, someone will correct me soon. )

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Very interesting thread. My '91, purchased last year, can be started with stand up or down. There is a switch near it, but it no longer touches the stand. I've often wondered about it, but never researched it further.
So it's purpose it to not allow the bike to run with the stand down?
Back in the early 70's .... Some idiot.... Took off on his KZ 900 with the kickstand down. He took a sharp left, the stand made some noise and frightened him, and he dumped the bike. He then sued Kawasaki for a quarter of a million dollars saying the bike was unsafe because the sidestand caused him to crash.

So from then and afterword... Bikes came with "safety switches" so the bike could not move foreword untill the sidestand was raised.

They are in effect, idiot switches to protect those that are just too " forgetful" to remember to kick the lever up before they take off (no offense OD) ... All bikes before this relied on pilot checklist to avoid this.

We old fuks also were trained to turn the fuel tap to "off" when we stopped and to turn it back to "on" or "run" when we got back on the bike prior to starting.....

It's a different world now kids....

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I guess OD and I are in the idiot class. Anyone else tried to ride off with the stand down? LOL

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