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Why no more older/metric styled Kaws?

I recently bought a 1989 VN750, and I LOVE the styling of it - kind of an aggressive, performance type style, yet very comfortable. I like that style of motorcycle, but noticed while looking through the 2010 and 2011 models for Kawasaki, that none of them have that kind of styling anymore (probably haven't for sometime, I just wasn't paying attention). It seems like all of the models look like Harleys now. And don't get me wrong - I am not an anti-Harley person. I just like to think that there are options for cruisers that DON'T look like Harleys too.

I noticed that Suzuki (which is what I used to ride) still has some bikes in their lineup that retain that older metric performance street cruiser styling, like the S83 and even S40. I am wondering what everyone's thoughts are on why Kawasaki is not making anything like the older Vulcans anymore? And if anyone thinks there is any chance they might again.

I am planning on keeping my '89 til the wheels fall off because I love the styling. But it would be nice to think that if I wanted a new bike that looked something like it from Kawasaki, I could get one. But it looks like no one other than Suzuki is making anything like them. I guess I better keep mine in top shape then, eh?

(of course, as I sit here now thinking about it, I guess people could very well say the same thing about cars; and I guess I can hope that like with the current camaros and mustangs, the "old" metric styling will come back)
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I recently bought a 1989 VN750, and I LOVE the styling of it - kind of an aggressive, performance type style, yet very comfortable. I like that style of motorcycle, but noticed while looking through the 2010 and 2011 models for Kawasaki, that none of them have that kind of styling anymore (probably haven't for sometime, I just wasn't paying attention). It seems like all of the models look like Harleys now. And don't get me wrong - I am not an anti-Harley person. I just like to think that there are options for cruisers that DON'T look like Harleys too.

I noticed that Suzuki (which is what I used to ride) still has some bikes in their lineup that retain that older metric performance street cruiser styling, like the S83 and even S40. I am wondering what everyone's thoughts are on why Kawasaki is not making anything like the older Vulcans anymore? And if anyone thinks there is any chance they might again.

I am planning on keeping my '89 til the wheels fall off because I love the styling. But it would be nice to think that if I wanted a new bike that looked something like it from Kawasaki, I could get one. But it looks like no one other than Suzuki is making anything like them. I guess I better keep mine in top shape then, eh?

(of course, as I sit here now thinking about it, I guess people could very well say the same thing about cars; and I guess I can hope that like with the current camaros and mustangs, the "old" metric styling will come back)










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I don't think they are coming back. Many "styles" come and go, or mutate in some way over time.

Kawasaki for awhile collaborated on some models with Suzuki, so I guess you can say they still had a hand in Suzuki bikes you mentioned.

But times change. Your last statement of course it true, you can say the same thing about alot of vehicle styles, 4 wheel or 2.

Remember the 1982 Honda 750 Super Sport? Although gone, you can see styling cues from that bike in others made today.

The metric "cuiser" bike was always just Japans way of attempting to appeal to the american market...which was really trying to capture the "image" of Harley Davidson style bikes planted in the mind of most potential owners.
I don't care what anyone says...they all in some way were in fact copying HD styling cues. Some of course more than others.

I'm glad you like the styling of the Vulcan 750. I did too...and picked it over the glut of bikes that looked more "Harelyesque" back in 2002 when I bought mine.

But then I liked my Yamaha RD 400 , my Kaw triples, and my 81 Secca...all of which are "lost" styling examples on their own.

But then, my tastes have changed a bit too. Today, this is what I am riding:




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IMHO, if you look at what a lot of Harley riders are on these days, and the Road King in it's varying forms stands out far above the rest in my mind. That seems to be the trend of where the metric bike companies are going with their cruiser bikes. We'll see how popular the Vaquero is, although I don't know if the economy will bring a lot of sales to any bike company.

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IMHO, if you look at what a lot of Harley riders are on these days, and the Road King in it's varying forms stands out far above the rest in my mind. That seems to be the trend of where the metric bike companies are going with their cruiser bikes. We'll see how popular the Vaquero is, although I don't know if the economy will bring a lot of sales to any bike company.
I think I am like a some others, lost in the rear somewhere...lol...
If I had a Road King the first accessory I would put on it would be a FOR SALE sign, just not me in no way, however I can see a RK for someone that he and his other half want to ride long distance across country or whatever...
But that's why they make chocolate and that other stuff (can't spell vanilla)... I guess I like a few others will stick with the bikes most like the 80s styles, I just don't see the fat hogs for me...lol...
PS-Not knockin those that like those big things & windsheilds, but on the interstates & big roads, my Grand Marquis has size, a windsheild and a smoother ride... Thats just me...
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I recently bought a 1989 VN750, and I LOVE the styling of it - kind of an aggressive, performance type style, yet very comfortable. I like that style of motorcycle, but noticed while looking through the 2010 and 2011 models for Kawasaki, that none of them have that kind of styling anymore (probably haven't for sometime, I just wasn't paying attention). It seems like all of the models look like Harleys now. And don't get me wrong - I am not an anti-Harley person. I just like to think that there are options for cruisers that DON'T look like Harleys too.

I noticed that Suzuki (which is what I used to ride) still has some bikes in their lineup that retain that older metric performance street cruiser styling, like the S83 and even S40. I am wondering what everyone's thoughts are on why Kawasaki is not making anything like the older Vulcans anymore? And if anyone thinks there is any chance they might again.

I am planning on keeping my '89 til the wheels fall off because I love the styling. But it would be nice to think that if I wanted a new bike that looked something like it from Kawasaki, I could get one. But it looks like no one other than Suzuki is making anything like them. I guess I better keep mine in top shape then, eh?

(of course, as I sit here now thinking about it, I guess people could very well say the same thing about cars; and I guess I can hope that like with the current camaros and mustangs, the "old" metric styling will come back)
Good point. I sold my VN750 to my buddy Brandon and he is absolutely in love with it, so was I when it was mine. He said all the cruisers now-a-days you have to lean forward on. The "mini-apes" on the VN750's let you sit back and relax and that's why he's in love with it. Also that it's got quite a pair of course.

Your points well taken, I think the style is now considered dated. No doubt things will circle back around to that type of styling but it just became considered dated so we probably have a while till that happens. I did a paper on antiquing in college and the main point was: things that most people consider junk, if kept for long enough, will eventually become the most desirable - it's cyclic. And perhaps more importantly, other people - the enthusiasts, will pay through the nose for them. Your "new" muscle car analogy is perfect. I'm not a huge Ford guy but if you like old muscle you have to admit, they absolutely nailed the new mustang. They're so ubiquitous, I dare you to drive on any highway in the US for 10 minutes and not see one. The problem is, that style was popular 40 years ago. Antiques typically have 30 year generations, 40 makes them popular to the masses - the non-enthusiasts. That's when they become marketable, when the risk/benefit scale tips to benefit. So if you're waiting for that cruiser style to come back, you may have a while. Mean time, enjoy the hell out of your VN750 cause you're right, it freekin' rocks.
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After I wrecked my 06 vn750 I found a near new Suzuki S83 near me for sale, the price was right and I thought that would be for me... I went and looked at it and kinda liked the style & looks, took it for a short stroll and walked away... CRS-But something about the ridin steerin turned me around, I just remember I had to wrestle it in the sorta shorter turns... Can't remember, under, over or what......
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LibertyPilot - that's a great synopsis, and some great insight. Thanks for that. And you nailed perfectly the reason I like the older metrics (other than the fact that they just plain kick butt and look great of course!) : I like the riding position better. I don't necessarily care for the "reach forward" riding position of nearly all of the newer cruisers.

OldDog - thanks for the review of the S83, as I was seriously considering one of them awhile back too. Of course, I would still have to ride one myself to know if I liked it or not, but always good to have another viewpoint.

For now, I am just going to keep my bike in the absolute best condition I can and be very grateful that I was able to get my hands on such a sweet one. Thanks guys!

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Of course, I would still have to ride one myself to know if I liked it or not, but always good to have another viewpoint. AZ Kev
Exactly why I brought it up, ride it, especially get a feel in the shorter turns...
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LibertyPilot - that's a great synopsis, and some great insight. Thanks for that. And you nailed perfectly the reason I like the older metrics (other than the fact that they just plain kick butt and look great of course!) : I like the riding position better. I don't necessarily care for the "reach forward" riding position of nearly all of the newer cruisers.

OldDog - thanks for the review of the S83, as I was seriously considering one of them awhile back too. Of course, I would still have to ride one myself to know if I liked it or not, but always good to have another viewpoint.

For now, I am just going to keep my bike in the absolute best condition I can and be very grateful that I was able to get my hands on such a sweet one. Thanks guys!

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Yup, a ton of guys on the Mean Streak (my current bike) forum bought aftermarket risers for their bikes to elimiate the 'lean forward' position you mentioned. I didn't but I'm ok with the stock riding position.

I can tell you're sharp, you're spot on yet again. Being grateful for landing that ride is the best thing you can possibly do for it. Enjoy it and post a pic with the seat on if you get a chance.
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