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Perfectly "Typical" Car/Bike Accident

As a new rider, I have been reading motorcycle accident stories in the papers whenever I see them. I noticed one today that mentions a the rider was on a Vulcan. But it is almost comical how "typical" this story is..."the driver was attempting a left-hand turn", "I just didn't see the bike".

I'm surprised that there is no ticket issued, you would think bouncing a bike to the curb might be classified as "failure to yield the right of way". I'll probably learn this is typical as well....


Motorcyclist, 32, hurt in collision
By **** Lindsay, Berkshire Eagle Staff
Updated: 08/05/2010 07:15:15 AM EDT


Thursday August 5, 2010
PITTSFIELD -- A motorcyclist was injured in a collision with a car on North Street on Wednesday afternoon.

Allan Catalano, 32, was driving north on North Street on his Kawasaki Vulcan around 1:25 p.m. A Ford Fusion, driven by 67-year-old Ralph Stannard of Pittsfield, collided with the motorcycle. The car was attempting a left-hand turn onto Crane Avenue, according to Pittsfield police.

"I just didn't see the bike," Stannard told an Eagle reporter at the scene.

While the investigating officer found Stannard at fault, city police report he wasn't issued a traffic citation.

Catalano, the motorcyclist, apparently suffered a foot injury, according to a firefighter at the scene, and he was transported to Berkshire Medical Center. Catalano was admitted to BMC and was listed in stable condition Wednesday night, hospital officials said.

The Ford Fusion sustained significant damage to the front driver's side, while the Kawasaki also had front-end damage, police said.

The impact of the crash sent the motorcycle to the curb by the intersection with its front wheel facing north. The car eventually came to a stop in the eastbound lane of Crane Avenue.
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Seems to be the most frequent way the motorcyclists gets it. Gotta be on your game!


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I had this 90 yr old guy t-bone me in my pickup truck. I was making a left from a one lane divided road. He crossed the solid double lines to go around me on the left and nailed the drivers side door. Totaled my 4 x 4. The cops like, didnt you see him. Im like wtf, no, i was looking forward at the cars coming at me. No citation for the old dude. Cop says to the old guy "Well thats why you dont cross double lines". I was wicked peaved at that point. What if I was on a bike!
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I had this 90 yr old guy t-bone me in my pickup truck. I was making a left from a one lane divided road. He crossed the solid double lines to go around me on the left and nailed the drivers side door. Totaled my 4 x 4. The cops like, didnt you see him. Im like wtf, no, i was looking forward at the cars coming at me. No citation for the old dude. Cop says to the old guy "Well thats why you dont cross double lines". I was wicked peaved at that point. What if I was on a bike!
i would have "curbed" the old man


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Don't they have to issue a citation? Im gonna save money for the attorney...so i can sue in the civilian courts....nobody's gonna get away with this crap.

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I had this 90 yr old guy t-bone me in my pickup truck. I was making a left from a one lane divided road. He crossed the solid double lines to go around me on the left and nailed the drivers side door. Totaled my 4 x 4. The cops like, didnt you see him. Im like wtf, no, i was looking forward at the cars coming at me. No citation for the old dude. Cop says to the old guy "Well thats why you dont cross double lines". I was wicked peaved at that point. What if I was on a bike!
In Ohio the sheriff and the chief of police have the right to demand retesting for any motorist without cause. Deputies and police officers have to request this of their bosses. It is seldom used, but it is a great tool for getting unsafe folks off the road. I was told that a very old person who was required to retest usually just quit driving. Sad, but necessary. I never actually saw the law applied.
If your accident is not too far in the past, perhaps you can raise some noise there and get something done. Perhaps Massachusetts has a similar law. At the very least, a ticket would have gotten the old guy in front of a judge. Not sure that would do any good, though. It's hard to do that to old people.


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Here's the thing. At what age do we start retesting? 65? 70? 75? We know Old Dog is 70 and still rides, and I'll know he's still as sharp at the day is long. But we've all seen, read about, or know someone that should have had their tag pulled long ago but still get behind the wheel. So how do we call this one? It won't happen without an act of the state legislature and governor but the "Grey Panthers" are a big voting block and most pol's are scared of them.

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Here's the thing. At what age do we start retesting? 65? 70? 75? We know Old Dog is 70 and still rides, and I'll know he's still as sharp at the day is long. But we've all seen, read about, or know someone that should have had their tag pulled long ago but still get behind the wheel. So how do we call this one? It won't happen without an act of the state legislature and governor but the "Grey Panthers" are a big voting block and most pol's are scared of them.
Still young enough to grease my seat though...lol... Coming back from a otherwise good 90 mi ride today, ridin from Lynchburg Tn. on Hwy 50 toward Tims Ford dam, and nearing a right hand curve for me & a left hander for the kid in a cage he had lost on the outer shoulder from going a bit too fast as we both probably were, he's a bit sideways and I could just see dirt flying and the tires catching and him coming sideways at me, I was ready to try and jump as high as I could when he got it back on the pavement without the over correcting problem I figured on, he did good, I'll have to give him credit, and I'll also credit the wife for washing my shorts...lol...

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It is easy to get distracted by the age of the other driver, but in reality, we are at risk by everybody out there. You will never see an old guy yammering on a cell phone or tuning his radio. They are looking straight ahead and trying to drive right, because they know they are not as good as they were. The things old folks do to to kill bikers are usually predictable.
I have taken to weaving in my lane as I approach intersections, if there is anybody there who could get me. I don't do it all the time, but I am being consciencious about it.
So far I feel it helps alert those who are looking. They wonder WTF is that stupid biker doing?, and that gets their brain working. That loud horn folks here are talking about could probably help, on occasion.
Face it folks, it is up to us to stay alive.


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When I started riding, my friend gave me one piece of advice... "From now on, you ALWAYS have to remember that when you ride you are completely invisible to other people"... it kinda works, since if you think you are invisible you're always alert... and it's actually too damn true, cause people really do act as if you were invisible.
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