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oil change question. help

did my oil change, when I pulled the drain plug on the side my screen broke apart from the grommet and believe me it was not fun fishing it out of there. on a good note there was no shavings on it. but I do need a new screen now, will it kill the bike to run it without it,I know it is there for a reason but it was clean and could throw one back in a 1000 miles down the road.
also I bought an oil filter bosch 3353 as suggested in the verses but it seems a bit smaller diameter then the one that came off it and shows part of the seat where the filter screws on to. does that seem right?

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found this in the verses so that helps on the second part of my question.



WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE EARLIER AND LATER FILTERS ?
The filter for the later models (95 and up) is a smaller diameter and shorter. The only difference is the physical size. It will work fine on the older models. Mating surface identical. If you have the room, I recommend the longer filters. Honda did the same thing with their filters (same filters as Kaw uses). The large filter is specified for the earlier years, and the smaller one is specified for the later years. The smaller one is used on Gold Wings and sport bikes due to space limitations under the plastic. Some dealers only stock the small one and say it has replaced the large one.

1986 vn 750 aka "Huck Farley"
42,000 miles
Rick's stator and rr
Tuxedo stator cover mod
pickup coil mod
dampers replaced
agm m/f battery
Harley sportster exhaust, degoated
Hid conversion
splines lubed
custom "vn750.com" grill cover
NGK Iridium spark plugs


acct to mcct mod https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17917

rekeying locks, https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7309

stator replacement walkthrough, https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11369
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think I'll order a new screen but hate to leave the bike sit with no oil in it for the week itll take to get here, will probably fill it back up and do another oil change when it gets here and that should really flush out all the old crap.

1986 vn 750 aka "Huck Farley"
42,000 miles
Rick's stator and rr
Tuxedo stator cover mod
pickup coil mod
dampers replaced
agm m/f battery
Harley sportster exhaust, degoated
Hid conversion
splines lubed
custom "vn750.com" grill cover
NGK Iridium spark plugs


acct to mcct mod https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17917

rekeying locks, https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7309

stator replacement walkthrough, https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11369
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does anyone have a good screen laying around?

1986 vn 750 aka "Huck Farley"
42,000 miles
Rick's stator and rr
Tuxedo stator cover mod
pickup coil mod
dampers replaced
agm m/f battery
Harley sportster exhaust, degoated
Hid conversion
splines lubed
custom "vn750.com" grill cover
NGK Iridium spark plugs


acct to mcct mod https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17917

rekeying locks, https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7309

stator replacement walkthrough, https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11369
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Could you glue the screen back on the grommet?

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Could you glue the screen back on the grommet?
nope, its shot. hope no pieces of it went into the motor but I think the main filter would catch it before it did. I'll have to order one, only about 8 bucks though.

1986 vn 750 aka "Huck Farley"
42,000 miles
Rick's stator and rr
Tuxedo stator cover mod
pickup coil mod
dampers replaced
agm m/f battery
Harley sportster exhaust, degoated
Hid conversion
splines lubed
custom "vn750.com" grill cover
NGK Iridium spark plugs


acct to mcct mod https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17917

rekeying locks, https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7309

stator replacement walkthrough, https://www.vn750.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11369
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think I'll order a new screen but hate to leave the bike sit with no oil in it for the week itll take to get here, will probably fill it back up and do another oil change when it gets here and that should really flush out all the old crap.
I think that is what I would do, especially if I thought there might be some particles of the old screen still in there (only you know what you removed)...
I think the new screen might catch them, and let you remove them, before installing the fresh new regular oil & new spin-on filter...
Hey we've waited all through the cold winter mos., whats another week...JMO...
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Yes, it is safe to ride the bike without the screen. It shouldn't hurt anything since you didn't find anything in the screen. It also has an oil filter to trap stuff. Just make sure you also remove the spring and washer. It also won't hurt anything for the bike to sit without oil in it, though I would probably disconnect the battery, so you don't accidentally start it with no oil in it.

There are 2 different style oil filters for the Vulcan 750, either one will fit and work fine. I mostly use the chrome plated Emgo filters from denniskirk.com. Never had a problem with them. Put a little oil or grease on the rubber seal before installing the filter.

And stay away from Fram filters. There have been many verified reports of Fram filters failing, and destroying engines. One happened where I work. Brand new filter, completely plugged. Fortunately we caught it in time. Others have not been so lucky. We mostly use Wix filters at work (fleet services dept.) and have never had any problems with them. Jerry.

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And stay away from Fram filters. There have been many verified reports of Fram filters failing, and destroying engines. One happened where I work. Brand new filter, completely plugged. Fortunately we caught it in time. Others have not been so lucky. We mostly use Wix filters at work (fleet services dept.) and have never had any problems with them. Jerry.
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I am almost sure a Fram filter caused a problem on my 03 vn750, but I was lucky as it happened as I was starting to leave the dealership...
The Mech. thought it was the sensor, but it was not as there was absolutly no pressure to measure...
He and I agree thinking a bit of the card board used to help with the glueing of the filter material broke loose and probably stuck in the pressure relief ball valve...
I will not use a Fram filter again after seeing how & where they are made, hot oil & cardboard just don't go togather in the engine oil system...
Thats just my opinion though...
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