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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-10-2010, 12:46 PM Thread Starter
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Slow ignition startup

I just replaced all the spark plugs and wires. I had an arc to the engine from the front right plug wire and i do not see it anymore, after i just changed the plugs and wire caps. I must push the start button about 15 times until the engine finally runs continually. Does anyone have any idea what this would be caused by. the carbs were rebuilt last fall so they are up to snuff and i have run carb cleaner through the gas tank and installed a new fuel filter in both lines just to clean it out for the spring. I just want her to start up with less strain. Any suggestions are welcome.

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Do you have a MF AGM battery or a standard wet cell? Did you use Iridium plugs or standard?


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I would say it sounds like a fuel problem. Check to see if your fuel lines maybe kinked, or the new fuel filters maybe the problem. You have it seems good spark.

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standard plugs factory recommended and wet battery fully charged.
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i checked for kinks and don't see any. I did have the tank lined with that red stuff by a local radiator repair shop. they did the whole acid strip and all to get rid of the rust in the tank. the filter i speak of is the in tank filter attached to the fuel reserve valve. in addition brand new in great condition. i runs fine after the initial 15 start cranks.
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I just replaced all the spark plugs and wires. I had an arc to the engine from the front right plug wire and i do not see it anymore, after i just changed the plugs and wire caps. I must push the start button about 15 times until the engine finally runs continually. Does anyone have any idea what this would be caused by. the carbs were rebuilt last fall so they are up to snuff and i have run carb cleaner through the gas tank and installed a new fuel filter in both lines just to clean it out for the spring. I just want her to start up with less strain. Any suggestions are welcome.

Do you mean the starter stops turning the engine over even if you are holding down the starter buttton? And after about 15 times of pushing the button the starter runs long enough for the motor to start running?

If so, check the button itself then clean the starters contacts.

If not, never mind.


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i checked for kinks and don't see any. I did have the tank lined with that red stuff by a local radiator repair shop. they did the whole acid strip and all to get rid of the rust in the tank. the filter i speak of is the in tank filter attached to the fuel reserve valve. in addition brand new in great condition. i runs fine after the initial 15 start cranks.
Are you using the choke when you start?


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REBUILT ENGINE
CUSTOM PAINT
VANCE & HINES CRUZERS
EAR SHAVED AND RE-JETTED W/K&N'S
DUNLOP ELITE K591 FRONT & REAR
VOLTMETER
SYNTHETIC BRAKE FLUID
SYNTHETIC OIL & GEAR LUBE
PLEXISTAR 2 WINDSHIELD
SPLINES LUBED
ACCT'S GREASED W/TOC SPRINGS
COASTERD
LEATHER SADDLE BAGS
LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
PICKUP COILS GAPPED AT .018"
NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
BARNETT FRICTION PLATES & SPRINGS
CUSTOM GRIPS, MIRRORS, LEVERS
ORIGINAL STATOR & R/R 14.5v
DEKA MF AGM ETX15L

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it takes 15 times of cranking the starter for the engine to finally catch on. the starter sounds fine. I tried using the choke, and it just floods the engine and takes even longer than 15 times to start.
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Replace your CRAP lead acid battery with the battery in the link below and replace your plugs with NGK DPR7EIX-9 Iridiums. You will be amazed how well the bike starts.


Battery

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Deka-...item3eee173adb


Plugs

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NGK-I...item20afc1556c

You can get the plugs from Oriely Auto Parts for $7.00 ea.


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REBUILT ENGINE
CUSTOM PAINT
VANCE & HINES CRUZERS
EAR SHAVED AND RE-JETTED W/K&N'S
DUNLOP ELITE K591 FRONT & REAR
VOLTMETER
SYNTHETIC BRAKE FLUID
SYNTHETIC OIL & GEAR LUBE
PLEXISTAR 2 WINDSHIELD
SPLINES LUBED
ACCT'S GREASED W/TOC SPRINGS
COASTERD
LEATHER SADDLE BAGS
LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
PICKUP COILS GAPPED AT .018"
NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
BARNETT FRICTION PLATES & SPRINGS
CUSTOM GRIPS, MIRRORS, LEVERS
ORIGINAL STATOR & R/R 14.5v
DEKA MF AGM ETX15L

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FWIW, the only way I can get mine to start is to start starting it with no choke, after about 1 revolution give it a quick flick on the throttle, and then move the choke on. This way it fires up within 3-4 revolutions, otherwise it wont start at all. just floods out and backfires if i start with the choke.
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