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whats the true age of my VN

hi all, I have been trying to find out what the true age of my VN is.........
imported to the UK 1994 = A10, phoned Kawasaki main dealer with engine / frame numbers, registered 1st in uk 1994. Same reply from the DVLA, I cant seem to get any further than this.
Reason for this question is I was about to buy an oil filter, gave guy details on bike and he comes out with a dinky little oil filter, alarm bells straight away, he checks age, correct filter for this model, in three different catalogues and same ref for filter, he says a bigger filter probably means it is an older model.
where if anywhere could I check age,,,,,,Iam sure I have seen something somewhere regarding engine/frame numbers, country originally made for/sold, and year of manufacture.

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10th digit of VIN is year of manufacture
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cheers VoIP, just remembered where I saw vin numbers, they are in service manual page 331, my VN appears to be european 1994...............so I dont think 10th number corresponds
still puzzled as to why there is a bigger oil filter on bike compared to what it states???????, previous owners might have just fitted anything that screwed on
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As all Vulcan motors are the same, the difference in the filter size really has more to do with the company making the filters than anything else.

Here in the US available filters for the bike now specify the "shorter" filter, but many use the "longer" one anyway...thinking that they contain more filtering material.

So really, the choice is up to you , depending on what you want to use and of course what is available. The "short" filters work fine in my opinion, and are the easy to find here. This particular filter is used on many different models of motorcycle.

I use the Supertech filter available here at Wal-mart. Most folks here also use other aftermarket filters, not the Kawasaki item.

And yes your bike is a 94 Euro model.

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Here is the lo-down on filters from the Vulcan verses

Oil Filters for the VN750

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I change my oil every 1500-2000 miles so it's a waste to replace the oil filter at that point. The oil filter has ways to go before it's even close to being full of trapped dirt. Kawasaki says to change the oil filter every 6k, that in conjunction with what I've seen after cutting open a bunch of oil filters after different drain intervals (on various bikes) and inspected 'em tells me there is no problem at all with this method. The main thing is to do what your comfortable with.

I am using the chrome filter sold by JC Whitney, part # AFG06240X, for $7.99. I don't have a clue as to how well it works, but it sure looks cool. JackR


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-I use the EMGO Chrome ones on the 700 and the 750. No problems at all with them. Flemdog

WHAT OIL FILTER DOES OUR BIKE TAKE ?
1985-1994 VN750 has a Large Filter (Kaw Part # 16097-1054 FILTER- ASSY-OIL 1987) 1995 on up VN750 has a Small Filter (Kaw Part # 16097-1066 FILTER- ASSY-OIL 2003)

WHAT IS THE SIZE OF OUR FILTER ?
Large Filter and Small Filter 20 x 1.5mm threads anti-drain back valve 2.3" O.D. gasket

WHO MAKES THE OEM FILTER ?
The Kawasaki OEM filters are made by "Toyo Roki" which is reported to be a very high quality filter. This is how a high-performance oil filter should be built. It has a wide filter cartridge to expose more filter area. The endcaps are made of formed metal. The silicone seal up front offers a very positive seal to the element. The bypass valve is integrated into the bottom endcap to eliminate possible leaks there. The O-ring design of the gasket offers a better seal to the mount, and 4 to 5 full mounting threads ensures that it will stay there. This filter is premium at a premium price, but it is worth it.

WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE EARLIER AND LATER FILTERS ?
The filter for the later models (95 and up) is a smaller diameter and shorter. The only difference is the physical size. It will work fine on the older models. Mating surface identical. If you have the room, I recommend the longer filters. Honda did the same thing with their filters (same filters as Kaw uses). The large filter is specified for the earlier years, and the smaller one is specified for the later years. The smaller one is used on Gold Wings and sport bikes due to space limitations under the plastic. Some dealers only stock the small one and say it has replaced the large one.


DO I HAVE OTHER OIL FILTER OPTIONS ?
Yes. It's Sunday and you forgot to get a Kawasaki filter, or just not willing to dish out the extra cash. Here are some options that fit our bike (all years). All have superior filtering. Get the longer ones if possible. It only makes sense they usually have more surface are on the internal pleats to catch more dirt particles. Remember, these come is all sorts of colors. I do not want an orange or white filter on the front of my bike. Just use black spray paint before mounting.


First Choice: Filters about 3.25 inches long: -
Purolator Pure One PL14610, about $6. -
Mobil 1 M1-110, about $10. Made by Champion. -
Bosch 3323, about $6.Made By Champion. -
WalMart SuperTech ST7317, about $2. Made by Champion

Second Choice: Filters about 2.5 inches long: -Purolator Pure One PL14612, about $6. -
Mobil M1-108, about $12. Made by Champion. -
Bosch 3300, about $6. Made by Champion. -
WalMart SuperTech ST6607, about $2. Made by Champion.

Re: Wal-Mart Oil Filters The ST 2808 has been replaced by the ST 3593A.

WHERE CAN I GET A CHROME FILTER THAT FITS ?
EMGO << good filter, and good price ! http://www.emgo.com/ Sold by many companies, including JC Whitney:

1986 - 1995 Kawasaki Vulcan VN750 Spin-On Filters, Black Painted 06ZX3164N $5.99

1986 - 1995 Kawasaki Vulcan VN750 Spin-On Filters, Chromed Each 06ZX2408X $7.99

note: I only found the older, larger EMGO filters on the JC Whitney site. Not sure if EMGO makes the newer, smaller version. Perf-Form << also good, but does not have larger version www.perf-form.com J-503 (small black) J-503C (small chrome) K&N << also good, and has a bolt on end to take off, but does not have larger version http://www.knfilterchargers.com KN-303C (small chrome)
Thanks to Starman for this post


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Just for grins last year I cut a used Bosch 3323 open (was checking for metal flakes) and for reasons unknown I saved it (actually I forgot to throw it away). I've since switched to the WalMart Super Tech and when I pulled the last one I got curious and cut it open, too. It's identical to the Bosch inside. Apparently this is the same filter (Champion?) with different brand names. The Super Tech is about 1/2 the cost of the Bosch. Apparently, the "Bosch" label commands a higher price...like H-D. MokiMan

Are ya aware of the poor quality and potential engine damage the sub- standard Fram oil filter can cause? I've cut open quite a few and found that my once favorite filter is now built for profit, not protection! Have a look

Lets take this a bit further. I was at AutoZone buying a filter for my SO's car. Looking at the filters they sell, I noticed a filter called Valucraft in a yellow and black package. It sold for around $2.00. They also have the Bosch filter for the same car. So I compared them side by side and I noticed the "country of origin" markings on the two filters. They both had the EXACT same patent number as well as another product code number stamped directly on the filter. And of course they both looked identical in size and shape including the gasket end. So for a difference of almost $3.00, I bought two of the Valucraft filters (V16). Once again the Champion company is selling another product very cheap under another brand name. Richie

Oil filter I hand tighten, spin on then give it that extra little twist.. Getting the filter off a regular filter wrench will do it but if you change at regular intervals usually you can twist it off by hand too.

Oil filter, no need for torque measurement, just make use the gasket has some oil on it, tighten by hand only, when it gets snug, twist 1/4 turn more only. That's all it will need. You will see when you take it off, it was tight enough (it's always harder to get off). Plugs have crush washers, technically should only be used once.... just snug, for heaven's sake do not tighten hard with the wrench tool that comes with the bike, just a slight turn after the washer seats. I would also suggest getting a 'reversable wrench set' from Craftsman (they are open and closed end wrenches and have a ratchet in the closed end, about $75 for the SAE and $75 for the metric, 7 pc set). Well worth it. Lasts a lifetime.

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thanks guys, lots of info, great help as per norm
KM can u tell by photo mines european ?
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KM can u tell by photo mines european ?
Yes, if I had a clearer photo.

Euro models had the turnsignals in a different location, and had a different paint scheme per year.

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thanks guys, lots of info, great help as per norm
KM can u tell by photo mines european ?
Sleeper you should know if euroapean, I'm 73 and I can tell when I am...lol...
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tablets help.........A LOT
when I remember to take em.......sometimes forget to take them and so I take another, better safe than sorry
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