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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-05-2009, 06:48 PM Thread Starter
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Tried marbling.. now it won't start!~?

Well this is not what I'd call a happy ending to my story. In hopes of lessening the popping since I got the V&H Cruisers, I completed the marbling last night (even if I was scared to start the thing up with no reassurance from my previous thread on the topic). This evening, I open the man cave door and rolled Vanessa out into the driveway, put her on the center stand, turned the key, popped her into neutral, threw the choke to full, flipped the started switch and pushed the button...


Silence.

I cocked my head and said to myself "Self," I said "something isn't right here." So I checked the pet-cock, thinking as I did so this would have no bearing on the starter issue, and remembered there was a wiring harness under the tank I had disconnected in order to remove the tank- totally unnecessary, I later learned, for the marble job. So I rolled her back into the man cave and tore the tank off again to reconnect the harness. I didn't bolt the tank down, but tried several times more to start the bike with no change- she's continuing to give me the silent treatment!~

I don't even know how to diagnose this. All I have done is marbled, and what's more, I started the bike once after inserting the marbles but before I realized the golf tee part. What could I possibly have done? I have no clue. I hope someone here can set me on the right path because I'm going crazy with the fear of terrible failure. On a brighter note, if things get much worse, I'm selling her and heading to the dealer for a new and bigger bike- it's cheaper than therapy~!

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Ear Shave
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R/R relocate
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Check your kill switch?



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OK this will sound awful, but is there another switch besides the big red one on the throttle side? I wasn't aware there was.

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1995 VN 750 (bought as 2nd owner 11/2008)
26,440 miles
MF Battery
Stator replaced (55 Days!)
V&H Cruisers
Relocate rear turn signals
Highwayman Saddlemen bags
Wingerline Highway bars
Ear Shave
Rejet carbs
R/R relocate
Coastered
Kuryakin ISO Duallys all around
HD Heritage seat
12" ape hangers

To Do:
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Mirrors
Paint Job- should I do it myself?
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Is anything commin on or is everything dead? Recheck everything that you did. Good luck.

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There is only one kill switch. If you disconnected a wire harness WITHOUT DISCONECTING THE BATTERY FIRST you might just have a blown fuse.

Are you getting any signs of electrical power?

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Well the neutral and oil light come on but no head/tail light.

I got her back in the garage and tore everything back apart the way it was. Checked the marbles and traced both marbled hoses to the silver thing that sits in front of the battery box (someone said it's an air valve but I can't find it in the Clymer book so IDK). The smaller hose from this silver thing is detached and plugged with a golf tee.

I reattached the marbled hoses to the cylinders making sure they were nice and tight.

Now I'm so frustrated I'm off to have a drink and mess with this more tomorrow. I hope I'm able to get her started to take advantage of some of the beautiful riding weather this weekend.

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1995 VN 750 (bought as 2nd owner 11/2008)
26,440 miles
MF Battery
Stator replaced (55 Days!)
V&H Cruisers
Relocate rear turn signals
Highwayman Saddlemen bags
Wingerline Highway bars
Ear Shave
Rejet carbs
R/R relocate
Coastered
Kuryakin ISO Duallys all around
HD Heritage seat
12" ape hangers

To Do:
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Paint Job- should I do it myself?
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There is also a switch on the kick stand that is a kill switch. When teh kick stnad is down, it presses the button.


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Well the neutral and oil light come on but no head/tail light.

I got her back in the garage and tore everything back apart the way it was. Checked the marbles and traced both marbled hoses to the silver thing that sits in front of the battery box (someone said it's an air valve but I can't find it in the Clymer book so IDK). The smaller hose from this silver thing is detached and plugged with a golf tee.

I reattached the marbled hoses to the cylinders making sure they were nice and tight.

Now I'm so frustrated I'm off to have a drink and mess with this more tomorrow. I hope I'm able to get her started to take advantage of some of the beautiful riding weather this weekend.
silver thing is the sir valve and the little hose is the vac line that actuates it... cap that and the aisr valve will be bipassed ...



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There is a red (i think) wire on or around one of the side covers (right side I think) with bullet connections. Make sure it is securely connected. I had a Similar problem after putting my bike back together. Started riding down the road and lost everything. No power, no lights, no horn, nada. It turns out that connection just came loose. Plugged it back in and the bike cranked right up.
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Well i couldn't let well enough alone.

I got her back together this morning and fired her up... we took a short ride and I'm sad to say the popping seems to have gotten WORSE. The idle speed is good, but every time I let off the throttle she backfires 3-4 times as much as before.

I'm not sure what the problem was exactly, but I took everything apart and checked it over real well then put it back together and all was right with the world, minus the increased popping.

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"Vanessa"
1995 VN 750 (bought as 2nd owner 11/2008)
26,440 miles
MF Battery
Stator replaced (55 Days!)
V&H Cruisers
Relocate rear turn signals
Highwayman Saddlemen bags
Wingerline Highway bars
Ear Shave
Rejet carbs
R/R relocate
Coastered
Kuryakin ISO Duallys all around
HD Heritage seat
12" ape hangers

To Do:
Some sort of new grips
Mirrors
Paint Job- should I do it myself?
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