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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-16-2009, 11:36 AM Thread Starter
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Correct Screwdrivers for Metric Cruisers

I set out to replace my turn signal last week and as soon as the screwdriver started to turn in the head of the screw I felt it start to round out immediately. After stripping several screws on my carbs I figured it was time to bite the bullet and pick up the JIS head drivers from RJR Tools. I waited patiently for the screwdrivers to arrive and when they got here I was anxious to see if they made the difference I had anticipated. Even with the haed of the screw slightly rounded from my previous attempt the new #3 JIS driver went in and with little effort turned the screw right out. The head sticks in the screw extremely solid and has no play at all. I tried out the other sizes on various screws on my bike and without fail there is no play and only confidence inspiring feel.

So, if I had these screwdrivers earlier I would not have ruined my original carbs and stripped out the heads of the stock screws. JIS screwdrivers seem to make a difference...just my 2 cents.

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The turn signal stems, neck covers, and timing mark cover are #3 Phillips , and the carbs are #2 JIS.


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ACCT'S GREASED W/TOC SPRINGS
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LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
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NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
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ORIGINAL STATOR & R/R 14.5v
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I just went on a search of this JIS (which I learned stands for Japanese Industrial Standard) screwdriver that I had no knowledge of, and found this link.
http://www.instructables.com/id/SAD3S3IFOVXPGXR/

It seems the JIS bits have parallel drive sufaces, not tapered as a Phillips driver does. They also have a flatter point than Phillips.

Has anyone ever seen mention of JIS drivers as opposed to Phillips in any of the maintenance manuals, ie. Kawasaki`s, Clymer`s, Haynes, etc. I do not recall any mention of it in the Clymer manual, and I have read through most of it. As a matter of fact I just checked and in the 1st chapter on General Information, they make specific mention of requiring Phillips screwdrivers. I wonder how many buggered up screw heads this bit of mis-information is responsible for?

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Ol Hoss...the ones on my carbs when I was working to clean it up after four years of sitting which then twisted off for sure!

I have been so leery of the screwheads on this bike because it seemed I could never find the right screwdriver and I would try three or four different phillips ones before I simply pushed and pressed and prayed that it wouldn't strip. But these tools make the difference on every screw on this bike that I have tried them on. It is an amazing difference and one that can only be felt when the proper screwdriver fits the head of the screw just right. It is almost like the screwdriver grabs onto the head and then it has no slip or play at all and you have to work to make it let go. I already had a ton of tools with all of my other toys, but with this Metric Cruiser this is the best $25 I have spent on tools in a very long time.

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I use the Hozan D-155-100 JIS +2 for the carbs.

http://www.ikaswebshop.com/jisphilips.html


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CUSTOM PAINT
VANCE & HINES CRUZERS
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DUNLOP ELITE K591 FRONT & REAR
VOLTMETER
SYNTHETIC BRAKE FLUID
SYNTHETIC OIL & GEAR LUBE
PLEXISTAR 2 WINDSHIELD
SPLINES LUBED
ACCT'S GREASED W/TOC SPRINGS
COASTERD
LEATHER SADDLE BAGS
LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
PICKUP COILS GAPPED AT .018"
NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
BARNETT FRICTION PLATES & SPRINGS
CUSTOM GRIPS, MIRRORS, LEVERS
ORIGINAL STATOR & R/R 14.5v
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Quote:
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The turn signal stems, neck covers, and timing mark cover are #3 Phillips , and the carbs are #2 JIS.
Did you mean #3 JIS Phillips or standard US Phillips?

I'm keepin' all the left over parts. I'm gonna use 'em to build another bike!
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On my '92 the #3 Phillips started to round out the screw on the turn signal so I stopped and ordered the JIS drivers. Even with the screw partially rounded out the #3 JIS driver fit tight and turned the screw with no slippage. Perhaps my #3 Phillips is worn, but the JIS simply fit and held the screw like it was meant to be used.

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V and H Cruzers
Earshaved and sheared
110/90 and 170/80 Metzeler 880s
AGM Battery
TPE Stator
Clear Alternatives LED brakelight
Saddleman Explorer Seat
Kurakyn Levers
VN750.com Grill cover
SCP Coasters
Iridium plugs
MOSFET R/R
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Did you mean #3 JIS Phillips or standard US Phillips?
Standard U.S. Phillips, JIS Phillips will have a dot on the head. I have only seen the JIS phillips on the carbs.


85 VN700 "Old Yella"

REBUILT ENGINE
CUSTOM PAINT
VANCE & HINES CRUZERS
EAR SHAVED AND RE-JETTED W/K&N'S
DUNLOP ELITE K591 FRONT & REAR
VOLTMETER
SYNTHETIC BRAKE FLUID
SYNTHETIC OIL & GEAR LUBE
PLEXISTAR 2 WINDSHIELD
SPLINES LUBED
ACCT'S GREASED W/TOC SPRINGS
COASTERD
LEATHER SADDLE BAGS
LEATHER TOOL AND ROLL BAG
PICKUP COILS GAPPED AT .018"
NGK CAP, WIRES, IRIDUMS
BARNETT FRICTION PLATES & SPRINGS
CUSTOM GRIPS, MIRRORS, LEVERS
ORIGINAL STATOR & R/R 14.5v
DEKA MF AGM ETX15L

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Thanks. Didn't know about the dot markings.

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