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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-26-2009, 01:14 PM Thread Starter
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I hauled my bike across country on a flatbed trailer last month. On the way out, I was having trouble keeping the bike secure on the center stand pulled forward compressing the front suspension (4 straps, one going to each corner of the trailer). I readjusted everything and strapped it down on the side stand in the middle of Montanna. It stayed secure the rest of the way, except by the time I reached Minnesota it had worn out the side stand mounting point.

I took it apart when I got home to find that the side stand and shoulder bolt are fine. It is the tab welded to the bike that had the mounting hole worn out. I now need to ream it out to a larger size and find a bushing to press in there. I am going to a local fastener supply like Fastenal today and will post up what I find... and some pics of the repair when I put it together this weekend.
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Sorry to hear about that. Will really like to see how it all comes out in the end. Some people went with a large bolt or pin I think.

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Just FYI for anyone who reads this or may be planning on trailering their bike in the future. When I've strapped my bike down, I start with the bike on the side stand and mount my straps on the left side first and make them less than snug. Then strap down the right side and as you tighten the straps the bike will stand upright. Once you have the bike standing on its own, kick up the side stand to keep it out of the way and to keep it from damage when the trailer hits bumps etc and the bike suspension compresses to the max. Cinch the straps down on each side giving some compression to the suspension front and rear but leave a little for absorbing the ride. This will avoid the damage that Kenny had happen to his side stand.

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Some people went with a large bolt or pin I think.
That would work too, but it still leaves you with a hardened shoulder bolt in a soft plate so the plate is the wear point. I want to install a bushing that will be replaceable in the future if it wears out again.
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+1 on what Fergy wrote. You should never use the sidestand or centerstand for that matter when trailering the bike.

As for repair, many older bikes the sidestand pivot gets worn out, I noticed how much more they seem to lean when this happens.

Drilling out the holes and using a larger bolt is the most used fix I have seen. A large Nylock type nut , placed on top , so you can see if it gets loose is the way I would do it.

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Next time I make a trip that far and want the bike with me I will just ride it there... I don't feel comfortable having the bike balanced on 2 wheels with only the straps keeping it upright on the trailer. I have hauled thousands of loads using ratchet straps and they do occasionally fail. If you lose one of the four straps you will damage the bike as it falls.

What I found to work good on the way home was to have the bike on the center stand, strap down the rear first, then put on the front straps low on my highway bars. The front straps keep the bike from moving back, the rear straps did all the work to keep it balanced side to side.
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What I found to work good on the way home was to have the bike on the center stand, strap down the rear first, then put on the front straps low on my highway bars. The front straps keep the bike from moving back, the rear straps did all the work to keep it balanced side to side.


Well everyone else I know does it like fergy said. you use the bikes own suspension to keep pressure on the straps. If you have the centerstand down you are just pushing down on the frame.

You need 4 straps of course, two to hold the front down, I usualy go from each side of the handlebar, and the rear I fit the strap to the top of the shock. I have never had a strap fail, nor know of any one else that has ....unless they were very old or not secured correctly to begin with.

If you have wheel chock for the front, you really don't even need straps in the rear. But to avoid the bike sliding they should be used of course.......


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Well everyone else I know does it like fergy said. you use the bikes own suspension to keep pressure on the straps.
I ran into a guy hauling his bike this way in Montana on the way home. His bike was fairly stable while he was parked but said with every bump he could see the suspension compress, straps go slack, then the suspension slams back against the straps again. He had his suspension compressed between 1/3-1/2 of the travel.

I have come to the conclusion there is no good way to haul a bike except in a crate disassembled.
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I hauled mine 400 miles using 3 straps. 2 in the front, 1 in the back to keep the bike from hopping. This was in the back of a pick up truck. No kickstand or center stand. The bike didn't even budge! Make sure you compress your front shocks as much as possible, nearly all the way. Your best bet is to have a helper. If your afraid of a strap failing, just double them up. There is literally nowhere for the bike to go (under normal circumstances, of course!).
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I've hauled more bikes than I can count with two front straps compressing the forks and two straps keeping the rear centered and never problem.

I've noticed that pickup truck beds, while higher than trailer beds, are a better ride for the bike. I use a lowboy trailer now and it does bounce a bit if not loaded down.

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