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Unhappy HELP! Possible Starter Problem

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OLD PROBLEM: Last week I had what I'm pretty sure is an unrelated carb problem. The bike would not idle below about 1700 rpm even with the idle turned high. Above 1700 rpm it runs great! I've been soaking the carbs with Seafoam for the last 2 days. Today when I tried to start it, it won't turn over. However, I think this new problem has nothing to do with the old carb problem.

NEW PROBLEM: The engine won't crank. It won't turn over. When I press the start button it makes the usual sound like the starter wants to (or barely begins to) engage but it can't. It's more than just a clicking sound. I think it maybe the starter but I really don't know?
* MF battery is fully charged
* lights are bright with key on

Any ideas on how to diagnose?

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Check all connections on the battery? Wire brush them clean and tighten, sounds to me possibly a bad connection

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Hi Folks --

OLD PROBLEM: Last week I had what I'm pretty sure is an unrelated carb problem. The bike would not idle below about 1700 rpm even with the idle turned high. Above 1700 rpm it runs great! I've been soaking the carbs with Seafoam for the last 2 days. Today when I tried to start it, it won't turn over. However, I think this new problem has nothing to do with the old carb problem.

NEW PROBLEM: The engine won't crank. It won't turn over. When I press the start button it makes the usual sound like the starter wants to (or barely begins to) engage but it can't. It's more than just a clicking sound. I think it maybe the starter but I really don't know?
* MF battery is fully charged
* lights are bright with key on

Any ideas on how to diagnose?

Many Thanx!

Check battery, frame and engine grounds also the starter bolts and solenoid connections. .

Maybe one gremlin bell was not enough?


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X3 on the cleaning of connections. Get a little sandpaper to clean everything up with, including the starter main wire from the solenoid.

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Check battery, frame and engine grounds also the starter bolts and solenoid connections. .

Maybe one gremlin bell was not enough?
Lance and WK --

Thanx for your quick responses. I'll follow your suggestions and let you all know.
Yep, time for a second gremlin bell. . . or a new bike...#%^#!
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X3 on the cleaning of connections. Get a little sandpaper to clean everything up with, including the starter main wire from the solenoid.
Thanx Fergy!
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If after trying all the above suggestions, it still won`t start, try running a jumper cable from the battery positive post directly down to the terminal on the starter. If that works, then you know there is a problem in the starter circuit somewhere.

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I know you said the MF battery was fully charged, but what's the actual voltage when key is off and when key is in the on position? I assume you have the correct battery for the bike, and I see you have a voltmeter connected. Is it a digital or LED voltmeter?

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I would remove the plugs, or at least one from each cylinder to make sure that the engine is not locked down with fuel in the cylinders.

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If after trying all the above suggestions, it still won`t start, try running a jumper cable from the battery positive post directly down to the terminal on the starter. If that works, then you know there is a problem in the starter circuit somewhere.
this is a sure fire way of testing a starter,ol hoss is right use you car jumpers an clamp on the frame of the bike with the negative cable and touch the positive to the starter lead on the starter motor,but make surethe bike is in neutral and if it cranks the starter is fine, ,you can actually pull your car up close so you don't even have to take the seat off to test your starter.




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