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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 05-16-2009, 12:08 AM
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Congratulations Authority84! You'll love the Vulcan. Take it slow, ride your own pace, and enjoy the ride.

Also please get full protective gear, especially a full-face helmet. We want to ride with you for years to come, so keep safe.

Now bring on the twisties!

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Congratulations. The best advise is to learn slowly and take the course. Remember, you are totally relaxed until you start steering with your hips.

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I too like to idle mine at around 800 rpm.

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Speaking of steering with the hips. My hips where killing me yesterday after just a couple trips around the block. I was thinking maybe I was just sitting a little close on the seat. I'm 6'4 so it is just a little cramped feeling, but towards the end the the pressure in my hips wasn't as bad. Like I told the lady I got it from it could also be as a natural reaction I was squeezing my legs in to tight to protect the jewels. I really need to practice turns a lot more I'm going back over shortly to adjust that throttle and ride it more, just trying to get comfortable enough to make the ride home on it b4 I hop out on any busy streets. I'M still trying to grasp the counter steering thing.

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Your hips hurt most likely because you were tensed up. The deal about steering with the hips is that you will find out as you learn to ride that you will steer by leaning slightly to one side or the other. Your hands will be on the grips mostly to hang on and be near the controls you will use them to steer only at very slow speeds. You don't need to squeeze the bike with your legs to protect the jewels. If you have a problem your jewels will go with your body hopefully to a soft place.

There are a lot of opinions on idle speed. I have mine idling at 1000 and since I put on the voltmeter I have found out that it is about the threshold of where charging starts. You can set your idle lower but be aware that you are not puting volts in your battery while you're sitting there at idle.

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I know some of us like to slow down our idle to make it sound more like a harley at idle. But there is a reason why the manual states the idle should be around 1100. Your oil pump doesn't work efficiently unless the engine is revved a little, and below 1100 isn't recommended. It's also true about the charging system. Plus your water pump isn't doing an effective job at lower idles either. Just my .02

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I know some of us like to slow down our idle to make it sound more like a harley at idle. But there is a reason why the manual states the idle should be around 1100. Your oil pump doesn't work efficiently unless the engine is revved a little, and below 1100 isn't recommended. It's also true about the charging system. Plus your water pump isn't doing an effective job at lower idles either. Just my .02
You are right and I know it.
I will stay with my idle.

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people mentioned how to adjust the idle but I don't think anyone said that you want to adjust the idle when the engine is warmed up. if you adjust it when it is cold it will be off when it is warm.
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Fergy you are right. All of you are right but the electrical is just another component endorsing a higher idle.

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Anyone can do 60 down the highway. Learn to ride SLOW. Practice circles, figure eights, u-turns...
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Required reading: Proficient Motorcycling - this book helped me a great deal, I've read it twice and still look at it.

Required watching: Ride Like A Pro
X2 to all above. After the MSF course, continue practicing the exercises on the Ride Like a Pro video. David Hough`s book "Proficient Motorcycling", is in its second edition, just updated in 2008, and has a bonus 144 pages on an includes DVD. I just got my copy a month or so ago and have read it through twice, and continue to pick it up frequently to re-read items of particular interest.

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Speaking of steering with the hips. My hips where killing me yesterday after just a couple trips around the block. I was thinking maybe I was just sitting a little close on the seat. I'm 6'4 so it is just a little cramped feeling, but towards the end the the pressure in my hips wasn't as bad. Like I told the lady I got it from it could also be as a natural reaction I was squeezing my legs in to tight to protect the jewels. I really need to practice turns a lot more I'm going back over shortly to adjust that throttle and ride it more, just trying to get comfortable enough to make the ride home on it b4 I hop out on any busy streets. I'M still trying to grasp the counter steering thing.
I`m glad you finally got in your first ride, A-84, but a 3,000 rpm idle would have scared off many a new rider. The vn750 is a bit short in the frame for tall riders, I agree. I`ve been an even 6' since high school, but recently was measured and have lost an inch and a bit. So at 5' 11", and #290, I find it a little cramped or squished when riding too. I found a 1 1/2 or 2 inch thick, rubber kneeling pad in my pickup yesterday, that I`m going to try sitting on while riding, to see if that makes it more comfortable. However this broken leg is going to keep me off the bike this year too.

I am going to make a set of highway pegs, so at least I can stretch out on the bike. I`m sure you need some too.

Countersteering was a brand new concept to me as well, until about 18 months ago, when I was reading the manual from a mc training school in Calgary. I was talking to a friend who has been riding dirt and street bikes for 35+ years. His wife, who rides a Honda Shadow 750, took the safety course here locally 10 years ago. When Jack read her class handout about countersteering, he said "BS, I don`t do that", then grabbed his helmet and Goldwing and went for a ride. Half an hour later, he came back muttereing "Damn, I do, do that"! He realized that he was countersteering all the time, but it was so subtle, that it did not even conciously register in his mind.

Once you learn to do it , and trust it, turning is much easier. Try riding down a quiet street, in a straight line at 15-20 mph. Then just give a short easy bump to the right grip, then let it come back on its own. The bike will make a quick lean to the right and dodge over 3-4 feet then straighten back up. If you want to straighten up faster, give a little push to the left. Just leaning gives you wide sweeping turns, but a little "push steering" tightens the corners right up. MC writer David Hough, mentioned above, practices by missing the broken white lines on the highway when changing lanes, and countersteering between them.

Good luck with the MSF course next weekend. You will do just fine , my friend, as long as you remember to TURN YOUR HEAD, AND LOOK WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. Just shifting your eyes won`t do it. When making U-turns or figure eights, etc., point your chin over your shoulder, in the direction you want to go, and focus 4 or 5 feet above the ground. You can pre-practice some of this at home on a chair, by visualizing it and going thru the movements as though your hands are on the bars.

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