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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 04-19-2009, 03:49 PM Thread Starter
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New battery.. so what's the problem?!

Hello all!

Yesterday, I was surprising my wife with a long ride in the sun before dinner and the Fleetwood Mac Concert.. it was supposed to be an awesome day. Well we started out with a great ride! It was beautiful! Until I Stopped to get gas. When I shut her off and filled the tank, all seemed normal. Then I went to start her up and .. click click click.. nothing! I tried to bump the clutch using a hill in the parking lot.. no dice.. A nice man from NY was traveling with his daughter was nice enough to push me around the parking lot as I continued to try to bump the clutch.. still no luck! So he mentioned he had jumper cables to which I explained I needed a socket to get to the battery. He was sent from heaven because he had just what I needed to pop the seat off and we jumped her without issue. Well a moment later she cut out again... I tried the started and still click click click.. nothing! We jumped it once more... and rode around the lot to make sure it was ok as he drove off. Well we gunned it home... missing our dinner reservations, and as we pulled off the freeway, the bike shut off again- about a mile from the house. So we parked it in the Home Depot lot and hoofed it the mile to pick the car up. Luckily my Volvo is more reliable and likes to drive fast.. we made it to the arena for the concert just missing the first 30 minutes.. and we got an upgrade to much closer seats so it ended well I guess to that point. So after the concert.. we stopped at Home Depot and she still wouldn't start. So I had the wife drive the car as I pushed my Vulcan home!

So today my back is a wreck.. my legs are bruised from the pegs, and I'm spending the day with the laptop, the remote, and the bed! But can anyone help me understand what the heck happened and how to fix it? I mean the battery isn't 3 months old, and I had fully charged it before we left today. How can I make sure this doesn't happen again?!
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So sorry your awesome day almost got ruined because of your Vulcan. Good to hear you ended the evening with better seats for FM.

As for the electrical problem, defective batteries are known to be out there and I suspect this is the problem. The clicking noise tells me your starter is trying but not getting enough juice. The bike did take a jump and ran for a while, telling me that the slight charge it received from the start, and the bike's charging system, kept it going for a while at least. Let's hope it's not more involved than the battery. Take it to be load tested or something where you bought it because it should still be under warranty.

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that sucks...
but look at the bright side, you made it to the concert, and you made it home alive and well with MEMORIES to look back on and laugh at later!
hope you find the problem...

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X2 to what RubyRick said.
Also, as usually asked about similar situations, have you cleaned and checked the battery connections?
Glad ya made it in time for most of the concert and to the upgraded seats.....


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Good point Hyper. Even though the battery is new, the connections could be loose or corroded or damaged. Sometimes the ground wire could be loose or corroded at the frame connection, too.

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Check your charging system.

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sounds to me like a bad ground (well i hope this is the case as opose to the charging system... ) the fact that u shut it down and it wouldnt start... what year and how many miles (though are charging system tends to not care about the age and miles... ) im leaning towards the batt ok with it being the age it is is it a MF agm? there are a lot of situations but I'd start with a volt meter accross the batt... then jump her and do the same test.... good luck and keep us posted...



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Thanks to all for the responses.. you all are great!

The battery is new, and it is MF agm.. It was the Yuasa.. the most expensive one they had! I was shocked to pay $100 for it! The connections don't appear to be eroded but I will investigate that further, I will also look at the ground to the frame! I'll put my volt meter on it also to see how that works out. And I'll read up on the charging system so I'm prepared if this gets worse...

All in all the night was a success. FM was AWESOME, and the wife loved the effort- that was the main goal. Although I spent all day Sunday in bed and today I have knots the size of baseballs in my back, it was a pleasurable experience.

My bike is 1995 with just over 20k miles.
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Hopefully it's something simple, but if it turns out to be a charging system issue you're in the right place. I had my r/r take a permanent vacation right after I bought my bike. I was more than a little frustrated trying to figure out what was going on by myself, but with the help of some of the good folks on this forum I was able to diagnose the problem and fix it relatively cheap.

I have had another r/r go south since then (don't buy an electrex r/r), but I knew what to look for to do the diagnostics. I'd recommend adding a battery gauge to your bike so you can keep an eye on what the charging system is doing while you're riding. I put one on my bike a couple of months ago and I can tell you that the peace of mind that you get knowing that it's working like it should be is priceless.

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Don't rule out a bad battery just because it is new, have it checked even if it is a $1,000 Lith-Ion or some other witches brew, it can still be baaaaaaaaadddddddd.........One of the best HP outboard mechanics I know will always put a used but known working part on an outboard before a new one if he has one, if that fixes the problem he will install a new part...
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