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Carbs and Fuel System

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02-08-2010, 10:37 PM
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One question here... isn't SeaFoam also a fuel stabilizer as well as a cleaner... if so, what ingredient is used for stabilizing the fuel.
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It's got to be the naptha. I've had Coleman stove tanks with four or more year old fuel in them that burned as soon as a match was struck. Anyone around who remembers Amoco white gas? It was mostly naptha. Did it go bad over time?
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02-09-2010, 12:22 AM
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kool, was just wondering
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02-09-2010, 12:35 AM
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Hmm. Just read the Wikipedia article on naptha, and still don't know what it is. My only experience with it has been as a lighter fluid, back when I used to smoke, and I also used lighter fluid as a cleaner, to remove certain types of paint, ink, and adhesives. Sounds like they think it might be environmentally unfriendly, so look for it to go away in the near future. On the other hand MEK is still readily available, and it can be very dangerous.
I remember the good old days, when we used to use carbon trichloroethylene, commonly known as carbon trich, to clean out old starters, generators, and alternators. Just try to find that stuff now. Jerry.
If naptha is the stabilizer, does anybody know what Stabil is made out of?
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02-09-2010, 02:27 AM
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Since Seafoam is so popular, It does seem like some other company would produce their own brand of it, sell it cheaper, still make a good profit, and put Seafoam out of business.
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What about Chemtool B-12? @ $3.99 it is cheaper and is designed to clean fuel systems.
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02-09-2010, 07:49 AM
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Here's a previous thread about Chemtool B-12 http://tinyurl.com/yjsjyto
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02-09-2010, 08:39 AM
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Thanks Ironman, B-12 is the kind of cleaning power I need around my garage.
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02-09-2010, 08:59 AM
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If this works it could be useful for those of us that can't get Seafoam.
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02-09-2010, 02:02 PM
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Be careful with white gas. The flash point is 43 degrees - lower than auto fuel. Wiki has some good info their site about NAPHTHA and all it's uses. I think I'll stop and get some on the way home from work today.
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02-10-2010, 11:51 AM
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Thanks Ironman, B-12 is the kind of cleaning power I need around my garage.
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Your welcome. But before anybody tries that in their fuel tank, remember that too powerful a solvent might dissolve the small nylon filter that's in the tank covering the intake tubes. I don't know off hand if the combination of solvents in Chemtool B-12 would hurt it or not, but I just loaded up on Seafoam at the O'Reilly's Seafoam sale last month and have no need (or desire) to experiment with the bike.
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02-10-2010, 03:28 PM
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B-12 Chemtool is a keytone based solvent, same as Gumout, just more expensive. I use Gumout by the case, as a general purpose cleaner. I also use it to clean motorcycle carbs, once I have them apart. But I would not use it in a motorcycle gas tank, and I definitely would not put it directly into the carbs. Keytones are the solvent used in the manufacture of many plastic and rubber parts, and will seriously damage them. It is also a good paint remover, so don't get it on painted surfaces. It will not harm metal of any kind, glass, or chrome. Jerry.
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